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Wednesday, March 29, 2023

France - A closer look at the Bordeaux Issue - 20c

France 1871 Scott 45 20c blue/ bluish "Ceres"
Bordeaux Issue,  A11 (Type III), Report 2
Example Seven

Into the Deep Blue

The Bordeaux issue 20c blue is probably the most fascinating for those of us that like to take a careful look at our stamps.

Why?

Because the stamp comes in three major image types (A9, A10, A11): catalogued as Scott 43,44, & 45. In Maury, the major types are referred to as T1, TII, & TIII.

And then the Maury France catalogue breaks the listing down further as sub-types (French "Report" (Litho Block Type)). There are two Reports for Scott 43, three Reports for Scott 44, and two Reports for Scott 45.

Finally each Report (which consists of a Litho block of fifteen cliches or individual stamp images) can itself be identified by individual cliche, as each one is slightly different. In other words, fifteen cliche identifications for each Report.

For this blog post, I will try to identify my group of Bordeaux 20c blue stamps by categorizing them as major type TI, TII, TIII (Scott 43, 44, 45), and then determining which Report they belong to for each major type. I am not going to identify the fifteen individual cliches within each Report, as that would be a bit too much, even for me. ;-) (If one is interested in identifying at the cliche level, Maury shows the identifying markers.)

In order to make the correct identification, I scanned some of the illustrations from my Maury catalogue that I own (under educational use exception). We will then compare my stamps and determine their Type and Report. 

Identification of Bordeaux Issue
Litho (cruder) vs Typo (other issues)
Note horizontal thick neck lines 

The first order of the day is to assure oneself that one has a Bordeaux issue stamp.

The 20c blue ( and similar 25c blue) "Ceres" is also found among the 1849-50 issue, the perforated 1870-71 issue, and the French Colonies general 1871-72 issue. These other issues are typographed.

The Bordeaux issue, in contrast is Litho, cruder, and the thick linear neck markings (as opposed to dots and dashes) are generally diagnostic. 

Bordeaux 1870-71 20c blue Type I-II-III (Scott 43, 44,45) Differences


Note the inscription is smallest for Type I, and largest for Type III.

Notice, for Type I, the space between the circle containing the head and the upper label appears to be wider than the other two types.

Note the R's and C's are quite different for each type.


There is a missing hieroglyphic for Type III. Different mouth images for each type. There is little shading of the neck for Type I.

Again notice, for Type I, the space between the circle containing the head and the upper label appears to be wider than the other two types. 

The inscription is largest for Type III.

Notice the 20's and O's are different for each type.

Type 1 (Scott 43)

OK, let's look at some examples for Type I (Scott 43). Oops, I don't have any. ;-) The problem is the CV is $550 and rare. I'll bet, though, that some unsuspecting Type I's are hanging out in various collections. Now that you and I know how to identify a Type I, the hunt is on! !!

If you do find a Type I, the above illustration should help to identify if it is Report 1 or Report 2. Report 2 has about a 20% higher CV (Maury) than Report 1.

Type II (Scott 44)

OK, do I have some Type IIs? Fortunately I do! CV is $45.

Of interest, once one has identified a Type II stamp, then one needs to determine which Report- and there are three of them!

Report 1 lacks some detail (dark spots, shadows) among the grains, and there is no white line outlining the head.

Report 2 has the dark spots and shadows among the grain, but no white line outlining the head.

Report 3 has similar dark spots and shadows among the grain, but also a white line outlining the head.

The CVs for the three Reports are about the same ($45).

Let's take a look at my examples.

France 1870 Scott 44 20c blue/ bluish "Ceres"
A10 (Type II), Report 3
Example One

Example One has an upper label inscription which is smaller than Type III, and the "C" looks like Type II. Heavy neck markings (not Type I), and Mouth looks like Type II. The lower panel shows "20" characteristic of Type II, and the script is not as large as Type III. 

Type II.

There is a white line outlining the head, so this stamp is also Report 3.

France 1870 Scott 44 20c blue/ bluish "Ceres"
A10 (Type II), Report 3
Example Two

Example Two shows a script not as large as Type III, and the "R" does not look like Type I. "C" looks like Type II. Last hieroglyph is present and has a Type II mouth. Circle is close to the upper panel (not Type I). "20" of lower panel looks like Type II. 

Type II

White outline of head determines this stamp is also a Report 3.

France 1870 Scott 44 20c blue/ bluish "Ceres"
A10 (Type II), Report 3
Example Three

Here is another Type II Report 3 stamp. Verify for yourself by checking the signs. 

France 1870 Scott 44 20c blue/ bluish "Ceres"
A10 (Type II), Report 2
Example Four

This is another Type II, but there is no white outline of the head, and there are dark spots and shadows among the grain: This is a Report 2.

The color range for my TII stamps vary from pale blue to blue. Maury lists some six colors for the TII Report 3 stamps, including the rare ultramarine color.

Type III (Scott 45)

The Type III is generally characterized by larger script for the top and bottom horizontal panels. The CV is $16 for the blue color (1871). But there is also, in the catalogue, an "ultramarine" color (Scott 45a) @ $675!

But the stamp also exists in two Reports.

Report 1 has a CV of ~$110, according to Maury. No wonder why I didn't find any Report 1s in my collection.

France 1871 Scott 45 20c blue/ bluish "Ceres"
A11 (Type III), Report 2
Example Five

The upper panel script is large (Type III).

The "R" and "C" look like Type III.

Of interest, the Maury illustration for the upper panel Type III does not show a dot between REPUB and FRANC. But all five of my stamps that look like Type III have a dot there. I think the dot is more common.

The bottom hieroglyph is missing (Type III).

The gap between the circle surrounding the head and the upper panel is small (not Type I).

The face shading is strong, consistent with Type III (also T II).

The lower panel has large script (T III).

The "20"s are characteristic of Type III, as well as the "O".

Thick frame (Report 2). (See illustration and compare with stamp.)

Type III

Report 2

France 1871 Scott 45 20c blue/ bluish "Ceres"
A11 (Type III), Report 2
Example Six

Example Six has the large script and thick frame.

Type III, Report 2

Also Example Seven heading the blog post is Type III, Report 2.

France 1871 Scott 45 20c blue/ bluish "Ceres"
A11 (Type III), Report 2
Example Eight

Check the signs. Yes, a TIII, Report 2.

France 1871 Scott 45 20c blue/ bluish "Ceres"
A11 (Type III), Report 2
Example Nine

Large script, thick frame - TIII, Report 2.

The colors BTW for my TIII stamps range from pale blue to strong blue. Maury lists five colors for the Type III, Report 2 stamps, including the rare ultramarine color.

Other Similar French "Ceres" Issues

Of course, there are other 20c (& 25c) blue "Ceres" stamps, but usually the 1870 Bordeaux issue is characteristic enough to tell. Nevertheless, why don't we take a look at the other "Ceres" issues.

1849-50 Scott 6a or 6b 25c blue/ yellowish "Ceres" 

I think this is the 1849-50 Typo 25c blue with "yellowish" paper (CV $40). Note the individual dots on the neck.

I show the 25c stamp ( which will not be confused with the Bordeaux issue, which is the 20c), as the 20c 1849-50 issue is quite rare (CV $2,000+), and only found unused.

France 1870 Scott 57 20c dull blue/bluish "Ceres"
Perforated

Here is the common typographic perforated 1870-73 French issue 20c blue (CV $6+). As the issue is perforated, it cannot be confused with the similar unperforated "Ceres" stamps.

1872 FC 12 or France 6

Finally, is this a French Colony general issue 1872 25c blue stamp (CV $13)? (There is also a FC 20c blue general issue @ CV $125 that I do not have.) Or could this be a 1849-50 25c blue? (CV $30)). You can see it gets a bit tricky. 

Out of the Blue

I hope you found this blog post useful for separating out the Bordeaux 20c blue types and reports. 

Comments appreciated!

2 comments:

  1. Another Exceptional Post. Clarifies and makes the detailed explanations accessible. This is how specialists get started!
    Roy Gelder

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  2. Roy- thanks for the nice comment - it is very much appreciated. !!

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